What to do once you are 80, Lockpicking 350-400
posted by Nition on November 26th, 2008

Ok so I’m level 80, now what…

Now that you’re 80 you can begin theory crafting away at what builds and gear you’d like to get. Personally when I got to 80 the first on my mind was to start leveling my professions. This will with very little bit of effort, generate you a nice source of income quickly. That is of course if you have the extra gold to do so without farming/dailies. Almost every profession has something to offer other players and the rarer the service you’re selling them, the more gold you will be able to make. So just keep that in mind. All the new profession masters can be found in Dalaran 

The next thing I’d like to suggest for you to do is level certain reputations. The best way to do this now is wear the appropriate actions Tabard (Ex. Tabard of the Ebon Blade) when you do Heroics, generally as a rogue you are going to want to start off with wearing the Knights of the Ebon Blade tabard for your helm enchant. Interestingly, the Sons of Hodir faction do not have a tabard and therefore the only way to level up your faction with them is to do the dailies at Dun Niffelem in The Storm Peaks. I mention this because this faction sells the best Shoulder enchants and even if you don’t have a new pair of shoulders yet, it’s a good idea to start now since there is no "fast" way to level this faction.  

I will not be going into rotations as I think the Rogue community should be trying many different variations to truly find the best ones.

***Please Note- Items listed as (PvP) are going to be used almost exclusively for PvP while everything else can be used for BOTH PvE and PvP depending on situation. Please don’t mistake this as a recommendation to use for PvP over any other item listed, it’s entirely up to you.

LOCKPICKING

Another thing you might want to do is level up your Lockpicking so you can feel like a real Rogue again. Assuming you are BC capped at 350 you will still want to head back to the Southeast corner of Nagrand and pickpocket the humanoids there for Dented Footlocker’s. Do this until 375 then head to Northrend. Pickpocket any Humanoid mob there to get  Reinforced Junkbox’s until you reach 400.

 

GEAR

***(Don’t need to achieve these just don’t exceed.)

Expertise Rating***

To cap: 214
To cap with 2/2 Weapon Expertise: 132
To cap with Human Rogue wielding a mace/sword:107

Hit Rating***

This is something that has a less exact number. With tons of things such as Misery and Imp FF affecting the number. However assuming that you have 5/5 Precision in your raid spec,  you will need 132 for specials and 755 for white damage to cap. Your poison hit will cap at 315 unbuffed.

Agi and Expertise are your most Valuable stats with Armor pen being the least valuable.

 

POISON UPDATE were are currently reviewing poisons.

 

 

GEMS This list will only include Rare quality gems.

Meta:

Relentless Earthsiege Diamond- Highest DPS Meta available.

Persistent Earthsiege Diamond- The meta Gem I will be starting out with once the arena season starts. (PvP)

Swift Skyflare Diamond (PvP)

Powerful Earthsiege Diamond (PvP)

 

Red

Bright Scarlet Ruby/Delicate Scarlet Ruby

Pristine Monarch Topaz/Glinting Monarch Topaz

Empowered Monarch Topaz (PvP)

 

Yellow

Rigid Autumn’s Glow - Use Deadly/Wicked/Pristine/Glinting Monarch Topaz unless you are really low on hit for PvE.

Steady Forest Emerald - (PvP)

Deadly Monarch Topaz / Wicked Monarch Topaz

Empowered Monarch Topaz

Pristine Monarch Topaz/Glinting Monarch Topaz

 

Blue

 

Enchanted Tear Best choice for a Blue gem but limited to being able to wear only 1 at a time.

Balanced Twilight Opal / Shifting Twilight Opal

Solid Sky Sapphire (PvP)

Steady Forest Emerald (PvP)

 

ENCHANTS

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Where to level in Wotlk, Leveling on Cho’gall
posted by Nition on November 14th, 2008

Where to begin in WoTLK

First I would like to recommend an add-on called Carbonite. It’s a quest helper that will make your life 20 times easier if you’re someone like me who hates leveling. I prefer this over Quest Helper. The first thing about leveling if you haven’t started off yet is to really complete every quest in the first couple zones. I suggest going to Borean Tundra first as the quests give more Xp. Either way, the choice is yours and there are plenty of quests to push you through a couple of levels. From there you can head to Dragon’s Blight. For you lore lovers, If there is any quest chain to do on your way to 80 (that also ends up being quite a bit of xp at the end of the chain) make sure to do The Kor’kron Vanguard (read the comments to find out how to do the full quest line). Not only do you get an achievement but a very nice cutscene. That last link is a spoiler but shouldn’t be missed in case you never do or plan on doing the quest. At a minimum of 73 you can head from DB to Grizzly Hills and go from there.

Leveling on Cho’gall

Thanks to Nagayoshi for this other pic

"If it’s red it’s dead" is the guild motto and we’re having a lot of fun with that. Thanks to all the people I’ve killed and those who have 2 shotted me with your Thori’dal, the Stars’ Fury. If the 60 total Alliance on Cho’gall see any members of Incursus feel free to kill them. The first night here was pretty bad with over an hour que at one point to log on, but it has seemed to go down a bit. I’m sure it hasn’t hurt that they have also opened Free Realm Transfers off of Cho’gall,  which will be running up until Thursday, November 20 at 4:00PM PST.
 
Waiting in Line

I’m sure some, well probably a lot of you, went and stood in line at midnight to get your copy. Other than the fact that almost every Gamestop in America had to call in each and every credit card it was ok. There were about 75-100 people waiting when I got there but nothing too interesting. On the other hand, when you look like an elite assasin like Akrios people notice you!Post if you had anything funny/interesting happen while you were waiting in line.

FIIIRRREEE 

Duels against Neilyo, New Guild now recruiting, WOTLK This Week
posted by Akrios on November 10th, 2008

Duels vs. Neilyo

 

In spite of the fact that I wasn’t sure if I would post this, I decided to because I thought it was pretty entertaining and that there hasn’t been much to discuss/post since the end of season 4. This is a selection from some duels I had against neilyo a few weeks ago, patch 3.0, no dismantle used. Although I’m not sure of the record (too many duels) I will say that he had the upper hand in terms of the ratio of duels won while being opened on and I give him the edge in terms of rogue v rogue.

http://files.filefront.com/duelswmv/;12313641;/fileinfo.html

Music:

Juno Reactor - Mona Lisa Overdrive

Ramallah - Days of Revenge

Skillet - Falling Inside the Black

I really haven’t taken rogue vs. rogue seriously until recently. I used to feel that it was almost completely based on the opener and maybe some luck, but I’ve changed my mind. While the opener gives a big advantage, if the person being opened on has prep, the fight goes a lot deeper.

Vanishing blinds is a huge reality; it equates to a guessing game coupled with reaction time scenario (guessing the person will trinket –> blind or trinket–> vanish, which isn’t much of a guess because if they don’t they’ll be reopened on without a trinket. Reaction comes in response to the other player’s trinket). There’s also the threat of being blinded out of vanish, wherein one rogue tries to vanish a blind but instead is blinded out because the rogue blinding hesitates very slightly on purpose. Another thing you’ll see here is blinding a blind, which is used in reaction to a rogue trinket –> blinding, and the rogue being blinded reacting with blind. (I realize this paragraph may be confusing). 

I was opening as mutilate and being opened on as prep because if you’re being opened on without prep you have a very slim chance of winning, even if you were to vanish the blind. I’m more experienced with mutilate but I’ve got a pretty good handle on how to try to respond with prep.

Anyway, hopefully you enjoy the video, and don’t over-think it.

 

New Guild, <INCURSUS> now Recruiting

 

http://incursusguild.com/

 

Although I’m well aware that the vast majority of the people who read this site are rogues and that is the class the we need least by far, I thought I’d post this here anyway.

We’re starting a new guild for WOTLK on cho’gall. This guild will raid 3 days a week and look to progress through endgame quickly without an overly intensive raid schedule. These will be 25 man raids.

The guild is starting with a core of about 20 players that have known each other for several years and have or will be transferring to Cho’gall. The server itself has a very strong horde population.

We keep things pretty light and love to pvp. We’re looking for members who can relax most of the time but know when to get serious during raids. If you’re a competant player that wants to be rewarded fairly for effort and commitment, check us out.

As far as class need goes, we are in most need of healers, tanks, and warlocks, althought we still are looking to fill out many of the other positions. Even if you’re class wasn’t just mentioned, feel free to apply at

http://incursusguild.com/recruitment/

where you can find rules and more information.

WOTLK this Week

Just a reminder in case you’re hiding under a rock somewhere, WOTLK is coming out this week. Roguerogue.com will keep you up to date on the latest developments for our class in the new expansion.

#RogueRogue IRC
posted by Nition on October 28th, 2008

Come idle with us in our new IRC channel.

#roguerogue on Gamesurge.

Me and Akrios will try to hang out whenever possible and welcome everyone to stop in and chat.

Countdown to WotlK
posted by Nition on October 26th, 2008

 

Wrath of the Lich King is less than 20 days away!  (Nov. 13th, 2008). On Cho’gall, the overwhelming lag has kept myself and Akrios from doing any real PvP. As of late, most of my time in WoW has been spent dueling in remote places and the occasional achievement here and there.

I would like everyone to know that WoW will not be the only thing changing in the near future - Roguerogue.com is undergoing huge improvements as well! This is due to the positive reaction we have received from a majority of our readers (who make it worth our time in the first place).

Preview of things to come…

WoTLK Rogue Strategies

- From dueling strategies to the best specs and strats, we will be continually updating from the moment the expansion is released.

Roguerogue.com Video

- Our next big project here at RogueRogue.com is our official website video! Ever record one clip that was absolutely amazing but didn’t have 20 others to go with it? Much less have the time to edit a full length movie? On Nov 1. 2008, we will go live with a new email address to send 1 raw PvP clip that features the best of your best. These clips will be compiled together to make RogueRogue Vol 1. which will showcase some of the best Rogue PvP clips in our community, plus a little bit of me and Akrios. Many more details soon to come.

Forums

- This is something we have been discussing for quite some time now, but didn’t really push for due to the comment area on our site. Now however, with the amount of emails we are receiving, it is making it very difficult to respond to a large portion of them. The forums will allow us to interact with each other much easier and discuss common problems and receive mature worthwhile information.

Keep checking back as we continue with updates and as the days to WotlK count down…

 

Update - a Week into 3.0
posted by Akrios on October 21st, 2008

UI

For people waiting for a fix on my ui, I can’t yet figure out how to fix the discord art. I’m not the original person who made it, and I’m no expert on it. That being said, the art seems to work other than some white boxes around the chat log that ruin it. I’ll try again when I have some time, and I started a thread on it on the discord forums. If anyone else figures it out, please let us know.

In the mean time, this is the ui I’m running with. Basically the same thing, except no discord art and some mods updated for 3.0. I also changed from moveit to moveanything, it’s the same general addon except this one works.

Click here for full size image

Download this here. Make sure you change the folder names in the wtf folder.

Other than that, the current patch is so disastrously laggy that I haven’t really been able to play other than bgs. I think it’s kind of stupid that blizzard released the patch before it could be applied to the game without making it unplayable. If you join an arena game too quickly, you have a good chance of getting the transfer aborted error. This would be ok if dueling was an option, but durotar, or anywhere with enough people, is too laggy to do anything. Battlegrounds seem to be working alright, but they are far from perfect. Hopefully things will be back to normal soon.

I’m liking this spec best of what I’ve tried, because this game feels like its about burst damage in 3.0. People die extremely quickly. I also found combat interesting but as I’ve said, I haven’t been able to seriously test anything in the lag.

 

3.0 is live, Eviscerate 9 Additional Duels, New Spec Page Coming
posted by Akrios on October 14th, 2008

 

Filefront link (download): http://files.filefront.com/9+duelswmv/;12063319;/fileinfo.html

Music: Robert Miles - Children (Original Mix)

Just some duels I decided not to use for my last video. Rather than delete them I thought some people might enjoy taking a look.

 

New Patch

3.0 hit today with a massive 1.2 GB patch. Here are some of the patch notes. To better familiarize yourself with the patch check out our 3.0 prepping article here

Notes

The following content will be disabled or removed :

  • The Atiesh quest-chain will not be completable anymore.
  • The Bear Mount from Zul’aman will no longer drop.
  • The Onyxia quest-chain has been removed from the game.
  • Naxxramas is "removed" from the game and moved to Dragonblight. (Unreachable until WotLK, obviously)
  • The ability to get titles related to Tier 4 or Tier 5 content is being removed. Of course, players who got them before the patch keep them. (Hand of A’dal, Champion of the Naaru) 

Also, a few things are being changed or added : 

  • Barbershops are now available in capital cities !
  • Achievements are being added to the game !
  • The amount of experience needed to level from 60 to 70 has been lowered.
  • New graphical effects are being added to the game, including the new shadow engine
  • The Stormwind Harbor will be available, but you won’t be able to travel to Northrend until the release of WotLK. However it does have a working boat travelling between Auberdine and Stormwind.
  • The Caverns of Time have been slightly modified to add an entrance for CoT: Stratholme. The instance itself won’t be available before WotLK, only the entrance is being added.
  • Mounts and Vanity Pets are now trainable spells and the old items will be used to teach you these spells. Once a mount or pet is learned you can access it through the Character Panel.
  • Various tokens like Badges of Justice or Honor Points are all merged in the new Token Interface. It will also remove the Badges of Justice and PvP Tokens from your bags to free up even more space !
  • The in-game Calendar used to schedule raids or events between your friends and guildmate will be available by typing /calendar

Item changes

  • +Healing and +Spell damage stats are being merged into a single +Spell power stat. Healers’ talents and spells have been updated accordingly to compensate this change.
  • Items with magic school-specific damage like +shadow or +nature have been converted to +spell power as well. This include most of the TBC items except for some enchantments like Sunfire or Soulfrost.
  • Protection Paladin and Tanking Warrior sets to reflect changes on the new mechanics. A lot of non set items are also being changed.

Raid changes

  • Raids buffs, debuffs, and auras stacking have been revamped.
  • All TBC raid monsters will have their health reduced by about 30%.
  • The standard melee damage output will be reduced as well.
  • Boss abilities remain unchanged, except for Illidan who won’t use Shear anymore.

 

Coming to Roguerogue.com in the next few days:

In the next few days we’re going to be testing out the rogue specs and seeing what works so we can bring you a talent spec page updated for 3.0. 

The servers are kind of choppy right now, but I’ll also be redoing my ui (or salvaging what’s left of it) for 3.0. Also going to work on re-uploading a bunch of the older videos that fell off with vimeo’s ban on gaming videos.

We should be implementing a new "video of the week" feature as well. Stay tuned for more.

Eviscerate 9
posted by Akrios on October 9th, 2008

 

http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=91403

Content: World PvP, Duels against Skilled / Geared Opponents

Gear used: 4 Piece brutal / 4 piece Slayers, Guardian’s Ring, Band of Ruinous Delight, Bloodlust Brooch,
BT Exalted Trinket, 2x Shiv Of Exsanguination

My UI: http://roguerogue.com/?p=35

Music:

The End is the Beggining is the End - Smashing Pumpkins
Downfall - Children of Bodom
Whispers in the Dark - Skillet
Throes of Perdition - Trivium
Rebirthing - Skillet
The Noose - A Perfect Circle

My last full video before WOTLK, and for a while I guess. This is mostly world pvp with some duels against well geared / skilled opponents.

I use combat mutilate spec, 41 / 20 / 0 throughout the video.

I wanted to make a pure world pvp video, something I don’t think I’ve done in a while. I wasn’t going to make a video but this was my last chance with a positional mutilate spec that I really enjoyed before this game changed, so I’m glad I finished it.

Anyway, hope you enjoy it, comments and constructive criticism are always appreciated.

 

Quick Update - Video Done
posted by Akrios on October 5th, 2008

The recording for Eviscerate 9 is finished, so is 85 percent of the editing. I still need to render and upload, etc, so expect it sometime this week. It would have been done sooner but I didn’t have a chance to duel nition until friday and I’ve been out of town since.

On another note, can anyone recommend some streaming sites that hosts pvp videos? So far imeem is probably the best i’ve found, since vimeo no longer accepts any gaming videos. The WCM hq stream is nice, but that usually takes a while, and I need another streaming site regardless. So if anyone knows of one it would be greatly appreciated.

WHAT TO EXPECT ON 3.0 PATCH DAY, BEST ACHIEVEMENTS AND GLYPHS, MY PREDICTIONS AND MORE…
posted by Nition on September 25th, 2008

 

 

With the release of Patch 3.0 right around the corner, those who don’t like to see content until it’s live or simply haven’t gotten around to playing on the PTR, will notice a lot of great new changes/features to choose from. From my few days of playing on the PTR, I thought I’d share the things that need to be gotten "used to" and to also help you understand them as quickly as possible from the minute you load up WoW 3.0. Nobody likes to fall behind from the start! I know some of these aren’t exactly Rogue related so I’ll leave those for last.

POISONS

When you first start, you’re going to notice some of your poisons are marked "Deprecated Item" which are grey and unusable. You’ll also notice there is no longer a usable icon from your spell book. Most poisons are now only one rank and you will be using the same Crippling Poison as when you were level 20. All of the premade poisons are sold where the old poison vendors were and at a cheaper cost - so all of you out there that are scraping together silver for poisons will have a little extra gold for cheap Blood Elf hookers.

DISMANTLE - Disarm the enemy, removing all weapons, shield or other equipment carried for 10 sec. 1 Minute Cooldown. 25 Energy.

It’s a great ability which is why the cooldown isn’t shorter. If it was, the disarm would be much shorter duration and would have diminishing returns most likely. I thought originally that this should be a 30 second cooldown, but seeing how game breaking this can be I can now easily understand.  What’s great about this is that it causes no damage AND does not build any combo points for target switches to save your healer from that Warrior/Rogue. It simply disarms them and you can switch back to your target with all your combo points. Eventually, you will see people in arena videos switching to cc’d players and disarming them just before it breaks - adding even more to our crowd control chains. Although personally I would rather see someone disarming during a clutch moment to save someone and being a teamplayer. There is also a great deal you can do with the ability offensively. Either way its a great ability and use it wisely.

CLOAK OF SHADOWS 

Don’t forget this has a 1:30 second Cooldown now so be even more selective when using it. 

GLYPHS 

I have gotten a lot of email’s lately concerning Glyphs. Glyphs themselves are sort of like Aldor/Scryer Shoulder enchants except you must buy them from an Inscriptor.  Whether it’s direct or off of the AH. Glyphs also modify your spells or abilities instead of your gear like enchants do. To apply/change them you must be in certain places in big cities to avoid you not changing them on the fly. You have 3 Major and 3 Minor Glyph slots. The minor ones aren’t very important and don’t really impact the game or you very much, such as increasing the range on your pickpocket by 5 yards. Not saying none are good such as this one Glyph of Vanish (not sure if implemented I haven’t seen it yet) just not as good as Major Glyphs. Definitely gonna have the sprint on water one though for some fun.

You will unlock the ability to use these glyphs at Read more…